Yawn - flingers my old "cewet" - you crap on relentlessly about this ; you have certainly failed the "Learning Indonesian - a guide for silly old farts" module on culture.

Just let's forget the politically correct for an instant shall we ?

First of all, the Wikipedia entry is jolly wrong on the prononciation - Boolay, not Blay, long U sir - and it insists on the fact that some foreigners don't like it, which is kind of weird, since, for instance, I and some people I know hate being called "tourist", but the word don't get banned.

Sticking to the fact, or maybe I'm blind, but a lot of expat I see here are richer than average, and have a behavior blatantly different from the native's. Isn't it, thus, kind of normal to get a word designating this majority ?

Something else, bule seems to actually come from "albino" allright, I asked several people, and read several articles, that seem to be it.

Also, historically speaking, if we compare other terms like "nigger" or "jackie" or whatever, what we see is a majority of higher status (either at the time enslaving or invading) or social status (toward poorer immigrants) giving hate names to a minority.
Here in Indonesia, what's happening is the complete opposite, since, as I said, a vast majority of the expat minority seems to be much wealthier than the average indonesian joe.

And as I always say :

"The days thing will be better will come when you'll be able to say 'a black lesbian dwarf' without anybody being bothered - even if you don't see a black lesbian dwarf everyday..."

Exactly, which is why the whole Bule thing isn't worth getting het up about. As I say I've been called far worse. Perhaps someone would like to call me something now? Any creative suggestions? Scum sucking son of a chicken sexer, etc.?

Englishman!

Porridge Wog!

Mr. Porridge Wog to you!

Oh yeah, and to a lot of other places... That's really a pain in the ass with time. What I hate the most is being asked for my clothes "I like you cap, give it to me".

Heh. Yeah, the constant demands for cash are a bit tiresome but when they ask for your clothes it's too much. "Nice shirt Mr. Can I have it?" "Ah. You want the very shirt off my back do you? I'm actually in the process of wearing it mate, sorry"

It's about time you changed that shirt anyway Roy. The "I Love the Pet Shop Boy's" era has long since passed.

It's more of a blouse really

The worst that happened was in Nias. I can't say that's really the local's culture more than the bad habit of some big NGO's workers to blatantly spend stupendous amounts of cash at the face of these poor guys who have not much, but there, nearly everybody was asking me for something I was wearing. I'd have said yes every time, from the morning to the evening i'd have been naked in a day.

The "I'm wearing it" answer didn't even work all the time. I remember a guy asking for my cap EVERY SINGLE TIME we met.

And If you answer "no", you're "pelit".

Fortunately only few people here are like that.

Kiwis. And their slut girlfriends. This past weekend was a good example. Who wants to go there with all that shit going on?

I was wondering if anyone would bring that inccident up. They're good guys, they're just a bit wayward at the moment. As for their 'slut girlfriends' I can also assume you don't know then personally or you wouldn't say that. You see, they're all my friends.

So you want to take people to task for fighting and acting like an arse until they are friends of yours. Then it's okay because "they're just a bit wayward at the moment"???? I know bugger all about either situation or the people involved but surely if you are going to muzzle one you have to muzzle them all.

If by "A bit wayward" he means enraging the local street mafia until they break bottles over their heads, getting taken away in a police car, returning later covered in plasters to be taunted for getting cut up a treat by one of the two skankiest, meanest hoes it's ever been my misfortune to meet in this country,and generally ruining everyone's evening then yes, I guess that's a fair assessment.

OK, I tried (half-heartedly) to defend my friends. I wasn't there, but I know they all have a good hearts. Blame it on Bintang. (the bottle over the head thing I mean)

Good hearts? Well I don't know about that but they should watch themselves. You can get killed in this country - it's happened before to Bules. Plus ruining it for everyone else with such boorish behaviour and souring relations between locals and expats is not to be applauded.

You mean they started on Banjo and his crew? If only I'd been there with my great skill in defusing fights, I would have gone to Blok M and got cunted.

The Banj-meister came in with his 500 hundred bum boys. You gotta laugh...

so what happened?? who? what? where? how? ... not to forget that all important question nearly all indonesian reporters don't ask: why?

Bogan-mania. Just lads causing a ruckus at Absolute who then hot footed it down to Romance to escape potential slice and diceage by Absolute's bouncers.

i suppose these lads were "members" of absolute bar.

[quote=ship of fools]OK, I tried (half-heartedly) to defend my friends. I wasn't there, but I know they all have a good hearts. Blame it on Bintang. (the bottle over the head thing I mean


For the who what and wherefore see http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=456003&op=2&o=user&view=user&subj=553897413&id=553897413


shitoffools seems to discriminate between offensive kiwis who get in fights. perhaps he wasn't around when one of his "good-hearted" bintang-loving chums slammed a 60 year old man in the face at papa cafe for no apparent reason. Ditto the jimmy duncan incident. Kiwis c'mon guys. People your own age at least!!

From a concerned pal of one of the fuzzy warm hearted kiwi lugs

"Your Not banned xxx. I was told They Just warned you to Stay off the Street for a week til things Subside. Thats All. Lay Low Mate"

Shucks...only a weeks grace

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clearly, the site has been censored!

Said "good-hearted" Kiwi chap seems, in a rare and fleeting moment of intelligence when he realized that they were not "cool" to display but rather reinforced his moron-status, to have removed the photos of himself battered, bruised and bandaged (as mentioned above) from facebook site.