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#64790 - 09 Nov 07 05:39
Re: Darwinism in action??
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Pooh Bah
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#64809 - 09 Nov 07 08:48
Re: Darwinism in action??
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Pujangga Besar
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As someone else said: "basic education is cheap". The problem is that although it's cheap in monetary terms, those in power realise that the flip-side of providing basic education to the masses would likely have a long lasting negative effect on their positions at the top of society.
Exactly, and this is Indonesia's big problem, the Soeharto Era anti-intellectualism remains deeply entrenched. This, combined with the polite non-complaining culture here means it's hard to wrest power from the ultra rich toads in charge.
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#64810 - 09 Nov 07 08:49
Re: Darwinism in action??
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Pujangga Besar
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...and it would please me enormously if Dilli would make a Photoshopped picture of Mother Theresa having things shoved up her wrinkly, balloon knot of an arse.
Edited by Roy's hair (09 Nov 07 08:51)
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#64811 - 09 Nov 07 08:53
Re: Darwinism in action??
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Maybe they should just sterilize all the poor and ignorant people? Problem solved, only worthwhile rich clever people will then continue our species. people like bush, soeharto, soros, trump etc... so who would get to decide? "I'm sorry madam, you are poor and ignorant, so we won't waste our resources on you... die!"
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#64814 - 09 Nov 07 09:03
Re: Darwinism in action??
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Pujangga Besar
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I don't think such Eugenics would work, look at Soeharto and Soekarno's dipshit offspring if proof were needed. A prime case of nurture over nature.
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#64816 - 09 Nov 07 09:10
Re: Darwinism in action??
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Pooh Bah
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...and it would please me enormously if Dilli would make a Photoshopped picture of Mother Theresa having things shoved up her wrinkly, balloon knot of an arse. A challenge worthy of my talents at last!
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#64827 - 09 Nov 07 10:08
Re: Darwinism in action??
[Re: chewwyUK]
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Pujangga
Registered: 12 Oct 05
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You will probably find you will get more rational dialogue if you used less emotive language. Using terms such as "Ignorant, Dumb and "ridiculously dumb" to describe people who live in poverty on a daily basis sickens me. The quote above makes you look very arrogant and displays a complete lack of compassion or empathy.
I agree Cheww. Guilty as charged, but with an explanation. I'll highlight a couple of other KEY things that I've said in this thread so you might be able to empathize and see where I'm coming from at this point in my life. You seem to have decided that these are rhetorical questions from me. They're not. I'm actually looking for some answers. Original post: I know it's an extremely harsh view ... but if we can put such (PC) "feelings" aside for a moment, ask yourselves:
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7th or 8th post down:
The background to this: I've been raised to believe, as I'm sure most of you have, that it is just an absolute given that we must help the poor and oppressed to live full lives with dignity ... After two decades of working with and among the poor via NGOs and UN agencies, I have become somewhat disillusioned in both the people being "helped" as well as the "helpers" ...
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#64828 - 09 Nov 07 10:24
Re: Darwinism in action??
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riccardo, you said you are disillusioned with the ones helped and the helpers... you also mentioned you were one of those helpers. does that mean that you are disillusioned with yourself too?
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#64829 - 09 Nov 07 10:26
Re: Darwinism in action??
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Pooh Bah
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#64836 - 09 Nov 07 10:39
Re: Darwinism in action??
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Pujangga
Registered: 12 Oct 05
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riccardo, you said you are disillusioned with the ones helped and the helpers... you also mentioned you were one of those helpers. does that mean that you are disillusioned with yourself too? Short answer, yes. I became disillusioned with working with NGOs about 6 years ago and refused to do it anymore, but I still held out hope that at the end of the day, they were doing good work. Now, however, I don't even think that. It's all just a big useless scam and people continue to get poorer and more oppressed while NGOs and UN agencies increase their budgets.
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The energy required to write a text.
Forget it, I don't have the thumb strength to text him. Guess I'll just call.
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